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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
一部非常不漫威的漫威大片。一次性出场十位新人物，157分钟片长，可能上映后又会引起两极反响。也许漫威忠粉会不适应，但我很享受小赵导演那缓慢而深长的镜头覆盖过山川雪原雨林荒漠，把这颗蓝星拍得极美，以及电影从公元前五千年美索不达米亚平原开始，不断闪回永恒族是如何贯穿人类文明史的那些段落。（片尾两枚彩蛋相当重磅。长评等出刊后再更新）
但后来呢，超英题材就成了XX正确的天然载体，失去了对真正宇宙和哲学的终极思考，反倒构建起了一套类似元宇宙一般的虚拟信息茧房。
从各个方面平庸，而且很白左式的、机械式的政治正确——黑人、亚裔、女领导、同志、聋哑人、未成年保护、世界和平全齐了。各角色太多又要均衡照顾就分散了人物塑造，还得不断地回首人类被殖民史，所以显得拖沓。这文本要么填充成上下两集，要么压缩节奏成更紧凑的商业大片，都比这么笨重地、机械式地兼顾好。最后，永恒族的战力太弱鸡了，这阵容真不如地球几个变种人。6.5
爽片，看着开心就好。
看多了罗素兄弟造的快餐陈屎是蛮难再欣赏与众不同的东西的，以及把自己身份定位为人类了赵女士不觉得还要迎合你薯片那点可怜的狭隘政国观
漫威做到现在故事都不会出入太大，只是这部拍得有点混乱又有点啰嗦，还有那些好学不学华纳公映版正义联盟强行塞入的烂笑点。PS政治正确的好处是终于能分清谁是谁了，反之那两个白人男性，到最后我都记不住谁长啥样。
3.5
大设定蛮好的呃，但是执行细节就…比较看功力…适合徐克来导，结尾没有小刀会的音乐差点意思
用了一堆电视剧演员用演电视剧的路子拍电影的结果就是，朱莉仿佛走错片场的巨星（本来也是。。。总体一笔流水账，而且女主人设真的太柔弱无趣传统亚裔女性了，放进神话/超级英雄系列特别别扭~以及一边zzzq到不想吐槽，一边让一个黑人在广岛痛哭，这视角真的莫名傲慢。。。不过能感受到跟导演文化的亲近（类似于，我们小时候大概看着同样的片长大的感觉），这个体验出现在漫威身上的感觉倒是挺神奇的~同样是搞亚裔，还是尚气好看很多，起码打得热闹，而且梁朝伟还那么帅对吧~
别带脑子看特效挺爆米花的，跟素鸡有一比。其他不讨论了
片子提了一个好问题：如果人类被设计出的目的是有朝一日集体牺牲成为新物种的饲料，那灭绝人类是否合理？其他部分就挺无聊，普通漫威水平。
除开「永恒族」毫无创意的视效不谈，我就很困惑为什么明明这么想拍英雄史诗，怎么最后又拐到爱和Family上去了。当然了，这年头不管你是健身健到脱发的肌肉猛男，还是凭长相即可辱华的功夫小子，最后总逃不过这一劫。但是吧，您这老几位都是活了上千年的大仙儿了，怎么还玩这一套呢啊？知道为啥蝙蝠侠那么酷吗？就因为他他妈的没有Family。
看的剧情简介。啷个父母创造自己孩子的同时还给他埋进定时炸弹啊。这作品中的宇宙其实是反社会et的脑内意淫吧。
马东锡的绝招是呼巴掌，看来赵婷也是迷影人士。没有比永恒族的人种构成更政治正确的设定了，而且大讲特讲“自由意志”，看来外星人即使身在三界外，心还要是在红尘中啊。可以看作是一部大搞烂gag的肥皂剧，全程硬舔青少年观众，非常尴尬无聊，而且时不时还要板起脸来居高临下地说教一番，又显得十分幼稚。原子弹谢罪十分突兀，搞不懂导演究竟目的为何。
Thanos did nothing wrong...漫威的题材走向或许映射了现实世界里人类从科技和 AI 的恐惧演化为对灭绝的恐惧吧。无论是否有这个企图，片子点到了一些存在主义和人口伦理，甚至还有近年越发受争议的 longtermism。这么多沉重的话题本可以严肃地说，却被强加的难笑的片段冲淡了。许多陈旧的设定让习惯于美漫题材的观众觉得几乎没有什么惊喜。最惊讶的反而是在卡司里见到了比尔弟弟。请好莱坞放过他，不要让他和 Andy Serkis 抢饭碗了。
哥哥弟弟在永恒族相逢 对不起 没法手下留情
好多细节好笑。两个印度人太搞笑了。亚裔女主长得可看，特效太拉垮，朱莉好美。故事有些逻辑硬伤。
强行把一堆宗教历史社会议题塞进一部爆米花类型片里，结果只能是两边都不讨好。还有人类进化是靠着高等外星生命帮助的这套理论，有点简单粗暴，还有点蠢，消解了人类进化本身的艰辛，明明是漫长的时间、不断的试错、付出无数代价的过程。当然进化到今天，也依旧是个人类而已。。
能拍成这样，我只能说服了
还有，这里面反派也没什么意思，当卧底都没什么深度，最后的打斗就过家家一样，别说和复仇者联盟了，就算是单人英雄电影都差得远。没什么意思，预计续集也不会有什么意思
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